A rough transcript of this great ~13 minutes of Graham’s latest appearance on Rogan:

Graham Hancock: What I see in the Amazon are traces of a lost science, a scientific mindset. Can I show some pictures of these geoglyphs, please?

[chatter about connecting to the projector]

Graham: Here we go. This shows the Amazon, 6.7 million square kilometers, there’s still 5 and a half million left covered by rainforest. That’s bigger than the entire subcontinent of India and hardly any archaeology has been done. The archaeology that is being done is fascinating, particularly in the state of Acre, in the southwest of Brazil. We’re seeing these extraordinary geoglyphs. I’m here with Martti Pärssinen from the University of Helsinki and Fabio Filho, the LIDAR expert, and Alceu Ranzi, a Brazilian geographer and archaeologist. We’re looking at the latest LIDAR discoveries. It was just incredible to fly over there. I’ve flown over the Nazca lines many times, but to fly over this and to see these huge earthworks on a scale of hundreds of meters, often encroached on by farms, was very exciting. There’s no conventional explanation for these things, as it’s only begun to be studied. I first noticed them on a NOVA flight more than 20 years ago, but it’s only relatively recently that they started to get the funding. I want to pay tribute to Eugene Jhong, a philanthropist who has provided funding for these guys to continue their work and also to the Comet Research Group and the DMT research being done at UCSD.

Joe Rogan: What’s his name?

Graham: Eugene Jhong, he’s a brilliant philanthropist, very open-minded, and looking to support research in areas that the mainstream just won’t touch.

[Conversation continues with descriptions of specific geoglyphs, their discovery due to clearance, and discussions with indigenous people regarding their purpose. Graham mentions shamanic journeying and visionary journeys possibly conducted within these geoglyphs.]

Graham: Severino Calazans, this large square on the left there, has coincidentally the same footprint as the Great Pyramid of Giza. It just shows you the size of that enormous earthwork. More work needs to be done, much more needs to be surveyed. Thanks to LIDAR, that can be done non-invasively. We can spot these things; very small teams can go in and do a bit of excavation there and figure out what was going on. I think the story is going to go back further and further into the past.

[Discussion transitions to wood structures, ancient civilizations’ capabilities, and astronomical knowledge depicted in ancient art worldwide.]

Graham: It’s a fascinating concept that they knew about the constellations 30 plus thousand years ago.

Joe: Yeah, and I believe they did. And we see that again in Gobekli Tepe in pillar 43 in enclosure D, you see a constellation that we recognize as Sagittarius.

It’s great to hear about people like Eugene Jhong, who apparently made a fortune in crypto, investing money in these types of projects. Gaia has made quite a bit of content about similar work, and I hope the cameras are still rolling, but I still feel like more people would love to know (and should know!) what’s happening in this realm. Later in this interview, Graham mentions his rise in fame recently, mostly stemming from his new Netflix show, and I hope that comes with more people like Eugene who are looking for answers.